(part 5)...the conclusion.
Justine: Well I know that you put out
the information about taking hormone replacement therapy
years ago.
Susun: Eleven years ago.
Justine: Eleven years ago, and now the
medical establishment has--
Susun: Has proven--
Justine: Concurred with you.
Susun: Well, what--
Justine: Well, what have they concurred?
Susun: Actually it was I saw in the
package information. You know you have to have package
information. Most people don’t read it. It’s
too small. But the package information already 15 years
ago said it increases uterine cancer, increases breast
cancer and increases risk of stroke and heart disease.
Justine: Oh, it said that in the actual
packet?
Susun: In the package information, yes.
Justine: The prescription that you got
when you opened it, it would say that.
Susun: That’s right, that’s
right. But it was in such tiny print. And of course it
was very confused because so many doctors were being told,
“Well, we see in the nurses’ study the women
who took hormone replacement had fewer heart attacks”.
But Justine, I’ve you know, been here and I’ve
noted that the sun doesn’t come up here in Northern
California until the birds sing.
Justine: <laughs> Right they must
bring it up huh?
Susun: They must bring it. It must be
the birds singing.
Justine: Right.
Susun: So that’s always a problem
when we’re doing a retrospective study.
Justine: Of course.
Susun: So nourish and tonify. That’s
those nourishing herbal infusions. And those steps Zero,
1, 2 and 3 promote and build health every day of our lives.
However, these steps are usually not even thought of as
steps of healing. Steps 4, 5, and 6: Stimulate and Sedate,
Use Drugs, and Break and Enter, are the steps that we
usually think of as healing, but those steps always injure
health.
Justine: That’s confusing to me
Susun. You say Six Steps of Healing and then the last
four--
Susun: Last three.
Justine: The last three--
Susun: 4, 5, and 6 injure health.
Justine: Injure health.
Susun: That’s right.
Justine: So, how--
Susun: But why would we use them then?
Suppose I have a woman who’s hemorrhaging to death
while she’s giving birth.
Justine: Yes.
Susun: Would it be worthwhile to tell
her she should have drunk nettle infusion?
Justine: No. We need intervention at
that point.
Susun: That’s right. Better to
injure her health a little than to have her die.
Justine: Yes. Right. OK.
Susun: Right.
Justine: So these are in extraordinary
situations.
Susun: If only they were.
Justine: Oh.
Susun: Unfortunately, many people in
our culture stimulate and sedate themselves on a daily
basis.
Justine: Oh, yes. Yes.
Susun: Right?
Justine: Yes, with coffee and then with--
Susun: Cayenne, TV as a sedative, alcohol.
Justine: Right. Yes.
Susun: Alright. And we do need to understand
that these things do injure our health. They may injure
it slightly, they may injure it grotesquely, but they
are things that don’t promote and build health.
Justine: Well let’s say a wine
at dinner. That might not be injurious. That in fact there
are some studies that say that that is beneficial.
Susun: It depends on what your relationship
to your fear of breast cancer is. For a woman, especially
a woman over the age of 45, every glass of wine is going
to slightly increase your risk of breast cancer. Now if
you’re doing a lot of other healthy things you say,
“You know, it’s OK. I don’t mind. I’ll
take that slight increase in risk”. Life is not
risk free, and it’s terminal too, isn’t it.
Justine: Right. Yes. None of us get
out of it alive.
Susun: <laughing> You got it.
OK.
Justine: Oh Susun, we could go on and
on and on here. I just love talking with you and I just
want to encourage our listeners to check out your website,
check out your books: New Menopausal Years the Wise Woman
Way - Alternative Approaches for Women 30-90; and also
Healing Wise the 2nd Wise Woman Herbal. That’s a
wonderful book and it’s going to be chock full of
information. And then Breast Cancer? Breast Health! The
Wise Woman Way. That’s a wonderful book as well.
So check out all of these books. Check out her website:
www.susunweed.com
. There are so many
things we didn’t discuss and that was your school.
What is it called?
Susun: The Wise Woman Center.
Justine: The Wise Woman Center and so
there are all sorts of programs going on there. And so
check that out, give her a call. Please check her website.
Susun: And I teach all over the place
and you can find my schedule at that website.
Justine: That’s great. That’s
great. So, I thank you so much Susun for being with us
and I wish everybody good health.
Susun: And green blessings.
Justine: And green blessings.
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